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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for posting this article!  I only had to read the first few pages of &quot;The Power of Now&quot; to realize that this guy was not only not resonating with me but could leave me with some residual crap if I let it.  I could feel the &quot;brainwashing energy&quot; and I put the book down and walked away.  The problem with this is that it left me unable to actually have any discussions or arguments about the author.  But the fact remained that I didn&#039;t really want to waste a moment more of my time on the man, so I just let my friends express how great they thought his books were and that I was happy for them that they were searching.  
Which brings me to my point.  Even though in my mind I don&#039;t think that this author is correct in what he is saying, I so respect the journey of those who do get some value out of engaging with that experience.  I have to.  Because when I look back at the crap that I used to believe in, the books that I used to love, and practices I used to keep, I can&#039;t help but laugh at myself.  But the fact remains that it brought me to this point.  This amazing, joyous, happy place in my life where I can see my world that I&#039;ve created and love my experience of it.   (I&#039;m not saying that I don&#039;t have stressed out, cranky days.  Just that I now seem to live my life with perspective.)  I don&#039;t know that I would have found this peace if I hadn&#039;t journeyed through the silly things.  So I have to respect that we&#039;re dumb because sometimes we have to embrace what we are truly not, in order to discover the joy of what we truly are.  I have a feeling that we love having this human experience and all that it entails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for posting this article!  I only had to read the first few pages of &#8220;The Power of Now&#8221; to realize that this guy was not only not resonating with me but could leave me with some residual crap if I let it.  I could feel the &#8220;brainwashing energy&#8221; and I put the book down and walked away.  The problem with this is that it left me unable to actually have any discussions or arguments about the author.  But the fact remained that I didn&#8217;t really want to waste a moment more of my time on the man, so I just let my friends express how great they thought his books were and that I was happy for them that they were searching.<br />
Which brings me to my point.  Even though in my mind I don&#8217;t think that this author is correct in what he is saying, I so respect the journey of those who do get some value out of engaging with that experience.  I have to.  Because when I look back at the crap that I used to believe in, the books that I used to love, and practices I used to keep, I can&#8217;t help but laugh at myself.  But the fact remains that it brought me to this point.  This amazing, joyous, happy place in my life where I can see my world that I&#8217;ve created and love my experience of it.   (I&#8217;m not saying that I don&#8217;t have stressed out, cranky days.  Just that I now seem to live my life with perspective.)  I don&#8217;t know that I would have found this peace if I hadn&#8217;t journeyed through the silly things.  So I have to respect that we&#8217;re dumb because sometimes we have to embrace what we are truly not, in order to discover the joy of what we truly are.  I have a feeling that we love having this human experience and all that it entails.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 07:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reality of Eckarts teachings are bit confusing at times.  I did find some value as it regards having clarity about what is means to be human.  Some of his stuff seemed way off the mark and I had to flush it mentally as soon as I encountered it.  Overall the 35 page review helped me better understand what was useful and what was not.  It was also a lot to digest. 

Thanks Barry and Heather
Ted</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reality of Eckarts teachings are bit confusing at times.  I did find some value as it regards having clarity about what is means to be human.  Some of his stuff seemed way off the mark and I had to flush it mentally as soon as I encountered it.  Overall the 35 page review helped me better understand what was useful and what was not.  It was also a lot to digest. </p>
<p>Thanks Barry and Heather<br />
Ted</p>
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		<title>By: moshiya</title>
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		<dc:creator>moshiya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 04:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>truth can not be reached by intellect
it lies in the center of feeling,the heart.</description>
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it lies in the center of feeling,the heart.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Allitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Allitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 02:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi folks,

&quot;Your mind is like a parachute - works best when it&#039;s open.&quot; No truer statement ever made.

Don&#039;t close your mind to any new thoughts or ideas. Always be open. I shudder inside when people poor out endless &quot;God&quot; twaddle.

I always like to ask - where was God when little children were being thrown, still alive, into the ovens in Nazi Germany. On holidays? At a party somewhere and found out too late? Perhaps he was texed but his mobile was flat. Hard of hearing and didn&#039;t hear the screams? God has a lot to answer for.

Think, think, and think again. Never stop asking questions. Question fearlessly.

Cheers,

Doug.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi folks,</p>
<p>&#8220;Your mind is like a parachute &#8211; works best when it&#8217;s open.&#8221; No truer statement ever made.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t close your mind to any new thoughts or ideas. Always be open. I shudder inside when people poor out endless &#8220;God&#8221; twaddle.</p>
<p>I always like to ask &#8211; where was God when little children were being thrown, still alive, into the ovens in Nazi Germany. On holidays? At a party somewhere and found out too late? Perhaps he was texed but his mobile was flat. Hard of hearing and didn&#8217;t hear the screams? God has a lot to answer for.</p>
<p>Think, think, and think again. Never stop asking questions. Question fearlessly.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Doug.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul E. Cook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul E. Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 23:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
a bit of word history.  In the mid 1800s the phrase &quot;free love&quot; was coined  However, at that point it referred to people who got married outside of the arranged marriage system.  SO ALL of us free thinkers. which included the abolitionist the w omen&#039;s rights movement, the new religious thought movements. such as Spiritualism and several other radical groups, were on the outside looking in.  Unfortunately this same thought exist in some grass rots fundamentalist groups
picture in point.
Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
a bit of word history.  In the mid 1800s the phrase &#8220;free love&#8221; was coined  However, at that point it referred to people who got married outside of the arranged marriage system.  SO ALL of us free thinkers. which included the abolitionist the w omen&#8217;s rights movement, the new religious thought movements. such as Spiritualism and several other radical groups, were on the outside looking in.  Unfortunately this same thought exist in some grass rots fundamentalist groups<br />
picture in point.<br />
Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 01:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Out of the countless Universes, There is this Milky Way, In this Milky Way there is a Solar system with several planets circling this Sun. Then there is the planet called earth. In the Earth are several continents. In this one continent is the U.S.A. and in one of its States there is this City say Los Angeles and in it lives  this being, just like all of us. And we think we are all so great!
 May the Supreme personal and impersonal Being enlighten us and direct our minds to the right direction and accordingly give us delusion or bliss! What I know is- the great people in the world are the ones with the greatest humility! May everyone just see  80 percent goodness and welcome the 20 percent in negativity.This is the sincere wish of my ego.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of the countless Universes, There is this Milky Way, In this Milky Way there is a Solar system with several planets circling this Sun. Then there is the planet called earth. In the Earth are several continents. In this one continent is the U.S.A. and in one of its States there is this City say Los Angeles and in it lives  this being, just like all of us. And we think we are all so great!<br />
 May the Supreme personal and impersonal Being enlighten us and direct our minds to the right direction and accordingly give us delusion or bliss! What I know is- the great people in the world are the ones with the greatest humility! May everyone just see  80 percent goodness and welcome the 20 percent in negativity.This is the sincere wish of my ego.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Lacsamana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Lacsamana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This comment is a continuation of my previous one because I want to express my thoughts and my &#039;ego&#039; since I posted a comment yesterday. 

In a way, thinking is not free and is like the functions of the body such as breathing or the beating of the heart.  Am I always thinking just like I am always breathing--without consciously willing it all the time?  Is &#039;thinking&#039; a part of &#039;being&#039;, separate from being, or one and the same thing?  

In another way, I don&#039;t have control over thought.  Even when I tell myself I&#039;m not going to think.  Well, I am still thinking.  I&#039;m thinking about nothing.  I can&#039;t really ever turn off thought.    

There is a sense of freedom in thought because I can choose what I want to think about.  I can change the topics from one thought to the next.  But there are also times when thoughts just pop into my head without me consciously willing it like daydreaming or &#039;aha&#039; moments.

Ok, I know I&#039;m not discussing the central issue of the statement:  &quot;a free thinker is satan&#039;s slave.&quot;  It&#039;s because I don&#039;t want to assume what the pastor meant unless I hear it from him.  What&#039;s more important for me is the statement got me thinking about a lot of other topics.  And I could go on to share some more.     

Thanks again for sharing this photo.  Thanks for your review of Eckhart&#039;s work, and pointing out some of the dangers of his ideas.  I haven&#039;t read the book yet, and I&#039;ve known about the book for some time now through Oprah.  I have to read it for myself before I can form any opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This comment is a continuation of my previous one because I want to express my thoughts and my &#8216;ego&#8217; since I posted a comment yesterday. </p>
<p>In a way, thinking is not free and is like the functions of the body such as breathing or the beating of the heart.  Am I always thinking just like I am always breathing&#8211;without consciously willing it all the time?  Is &#8216;thinking&#8217; a part of &#8216;being&#8217;, separate from being, or one and the same thing?  </p>
<p>In another way, I don&#8217;t have control over thought.  Even when I tell myself I&#8217;m not going to think.  Well, I am still thinking.  I&#8217;m thinking about nothing.  I can&#8217;t really ever turn off thought.    </p>
<p>There is a sense of freedom in thought because I can choose what I want to think about.  I can change the topics from one thought to the next.  But there are also times when thoughts just pop into my head without me consciously willing it like daydreaming or &#8216;aha&#8217; moments.</p>
<p>Ok, I know I&#8217;m not discussing the central issue of the statement:  &#8220;a free thinker is satan&#8217;s slave.&#8221;  It&#8217;s because I don&#8217;t want to assume what the pastor meant unless I hear it from him.  What&#8217;s more important for me is the statement got me thinking about a lot of other topics.  And I could go on to share some more.     </p>
<p>Thanks again for sharing this photo.  Thanks for your review of Eckhart&#8217;s work, and pointing out some of the dangers of his ideas.  I haven&#8217;t read the book yet, and I&#8217;ve known about the book for some time now through Oprah.  I have to read it for myself before I can form any opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: Sid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry and Heather are just about one of the best couples in the world.Humility is the key.There are lot of supreme egos trying to wreck the planet. BArry and HEather&#039;s mind movies, law of attraction,ask from the universe and receive it is perfectly peaceful and most successful, effortlessly.They re very kind and generous in sharing so many mind movies.

Sid and Ron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry and Heather are just about one of the best couples in the world.Humility is the key.There are lot of supreme egos trying to wreck the planet. BArry and HEather&#8217;s mind movies, law of attraction,ask from the universe and receive it is perfectly peaceful and most successful, effortlessly.They re very kind and generous in sharing so many mind movies.</p>
<p>Sid and Ron</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Goss &#38; Heather Vale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Goss &#38; Heather Vale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 05:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Darrell,

Many people like to say that Eckhart is just teaching Buddhist philosophy, but the quotes in the report from his book are, obviously, real.

There are many to choose from when you read it, but here&#039;s just one: &quot;Recognize the ego for what it is: a collective dysfunction, the insanity of the human mind.&quot;

And here&#039;s another: &quot;Ego is no more than this: identification with form which primarily means thought forms. If evil has any reality – and it has a relative, not an absolute reality – this is also its definition: complete identification with form – physical forms, thought forms, emotional forms... if the structures of the human mind remain unchanged, we will always end up re-creating fundamentally the same world, the same evils, the same dysfunction.&quot;

Right... so &quot;ego&quot; and &quot;evil&quot; have the same definition.  But you&#039;re saying he&#039;s not calling the &quot;ego&quot; &quot;evil&quot;?

You&#039;ll probably want to read the book (and the report) before you make any firm assessment on that.

cheers
Barry &amp; Heather</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Darrell,</p>
<p>Many people like to say that Eckhart is just teaching Buddhist philosophy, but the quotes in the report from his book are, obviously, real.</p>
<p>There are many to choose from when you read it, but here&#8217;s just one: &#8220;Recognize the ego for what it is: a collective dysfunction, the insanity of the human mind.&#8221;</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s another: &#8220;Ego is no more than this: identification with form which primarily means thought forms. If evil has any reality – and it has a relative, not an absolute reality – this is also its definition: complete identification with form – physical forms, thought forms, emotional forms&#8230; if the structures of the human mind remain unchanged, we will always end up re-creating fundamentally the same world, the same evils, the same dysfunction.&#8221;</p>
<p>Right&#8230; so &#8220;ego&#8221; and &#8220;evil&#8221; have the same definition.  But you&#8217;re saying he&#8217;s not calling the &#8220;ego&#8221; &#8220;evil&#8221;?</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll probably want to read the book (and the report) before you make any firm assessment on that.</p>
<p>cheers<br />
Barry &amp; Heather</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi:

I loved the article on Tolle.

To be honest, I never read his books or saw him with Oprah.  I assumed (oh, oh) him to be just another pop star and there is too much to read anyway.

He probably works for the same people that get others to ignore the world as it is in order to distact them from what is going on in it.

For example, churches, as well as the &quot;enlightenment&quot; community look for the quick fix to the present conditions in the world by looking inward ... &quot;can&#039;t fix the world unless you fix yourself first&quot; ... lay your treasures in heaven ... etc.  

So, all the &quot;good&quot; people are cloistered in church, or meditating, or doing something to better themselves instead of taking the time and mental effort to create the &quot;ideal&quot; world.  If the forces came out of hiding, then we could, with the aid of a democracy, actually create a &quot;good&quot; world, a &quot;new earth&quot;.

Take all of the &quot;good&quot; people, engage them in restructuring the political and economic realities in the world, and it could  be a really nice place to live.  You would see that the good guys actually outnumber the bad guys.

The &quot;good guys&quot; just want to have a life.  They don&#039;t want to make a lot of noise or create psychological discomfort for society.  People like regularity or the &quot;status quo&quot;.  That is a problem, when change is required.

I can sit down, meditate, and really enjoy myself.  But, if the world runs out of oxygen, or has no more food, or someone hits me over the head with a brick, then I am quickly brought down to earth with all of the pain and suffering it has to offer.

Who, of those that did a lot of things to change the world, spent years in meditation, etc., except the spiritual leaders?  Who controls the world?  Does the Dalai Lama have power over the government in China?  Do Americans even have power over their president or over their economic rulers?

Seems to me that an object of meditation is harmony and balance between the two halves of the brain.  Shouldn&#039;t the &quot;dualities&quot; also be brought together in a more balanced manner?  Shouldn&#039;t the &quot;rich&quot; be only a little richer than the &quot;poor&quot;?  Isn&#039;t it the wrong way to go when the dualities get so far apart?  Hmmm ... imbalance makes things fall down.

People like Tolle want you to accept the duality and escape the real world so the monkeys can steal all the bananas.

Have a nice day,
Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi:</p>
<p>I loved the article on Tolle.</p>
<p>To be honest, I never read his books or saw him with Oprah.  I assumed (oh, oh) him to be just another pop star and there is too much to read anyway.</p>
<p>He probably works for the same people that get others to ignore the world as it is in order to distact them from what is going on in it.</p>
<p>For example, churches, as well as the &#8220;enlightenment&#8221; community look for the quick fix to the present conditions in the world by looking inward &#8230; &#8220;can&#8217;t fix the world unless you fix yourself first&#8221; &#8230; lay your treasures in heaven &#8230; etc.  </p>
<p>So, all the &#8220;good&#8221; people are cloistered in church, or meditating, or doing something to better themselves instead of taking the time and mental effort to create the &#8220;ideal&#8221; world.  If the forces came out of hiding, then we could, with the aid of a democracy, actually create a &#8220;good&#8221; world, a &#8220;new earth&#8221;.</p>
<p>Take all of the &#8220;good&#8221; people, engage them in restructuring the political and economic realities in the world, and it could  be a really nice place to live.  You would see that the good guys actually outnumber the bad guys.</p>
<p>The &#8220;good guys&#8221; just want to have a life.  They don&#8217;t want to make a lot of noise or create psychological discomfort for society.  People like regularity or the &#8220;status quo&#8221;.  That is a problem, when change is required.</p>
<p>I can sit down, meditate, and really enjoy myself.  But, if the world runs out of oxygen, or has no more food, or someone hits me over the head with a brick, then I am quickly brought down to earth with all of the pain and suffering it has to offer.</p>
<p>Who, of those that did a lot of things to change the world, spent years in meditation, etc., except the spiritual leaders?  Who controls the world?  Does the Dalai Lama have power over the government in China?  Do Americans even have power over their president or over their economic rulers?</p>
<p>Seems to me that an object of meditation is harmony and balance between the two halves of the brain.  Shouldn&#8217;t the &#8220;dualities&#8221; also be brought together in a more balanced manner?  Shouldn&#8217;t the &#8220;rich&#8221; be only a little richer than the &#8220;poor&#8221;?  Isn&#8217;t it the wrong way to go when the dualities get so far apart?  Hmmm &#8230; imbalance makes things fall down.</p>
<p>People like Tolle want you to accept the duality and escape the real world so the monkeys can steal all the bananas.</p>
<p>Have a nice day,<br />
Michael</p>
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